War Analysis September 24, 2014

Hello!

It's Sarah again! In this post I will review the last war from September 24, 2014. We lost 81 - 92.
I thought this could be useful because it seems that you can't view past detailed war logs.

I thought we could use a look at the good things we did with offense first. (Mostly because it's shorter)

OFFENSE

Wall of Praise

6 Stars! Man you guys are the bomb!

Wolfmann

peepdeezy

AsianXL

5 Stars

Digital

4 Stars

SDworks2Much

jakothus

Rich

Weston

Hawg

Bdon

Tluna

Some observations on 3 star attacks:

   I watched 10 of the 38 3 star attacks and hoped that was a good enough sample to gather advice. (By the way, we had an equal number of three star attacks at 19. If we could have converted 6 of the 7 losses into two stars, we would have won. Not trying to guilt trip anyone.) Anyway, there were a few common themes. One was that the clan castle troops were generally drawn out first into corners. I did see a strategy where a person drew the clan troops out using a wallbreaker, so that could be an option in getting troops out of a centrally located clan castle.
  Three of these ten attacks were almost purely dragons. I like to say that pure dragon attacks are like the one night stand's of clash of clans because dropping a bunch of dragons in one place just kind of feels good and accomplishes the goal, but doesn't require a lot of thought or planning. Keep in mind that it is still a good idea to keep 20 troops free to draw out the clan castle troops. Someone successfully used 5 wizards and a lightning to accomplish this.
  Another common thing was that it was easier to three star people with a lower ranking than you and to three star people with high-level troops. I figure that's a given.
   When people didn't use dragon armies, they dropped at least 15 giants all in one place (usually a corner it seemed) after the clan castle troops were taken care of. Wizards and hogs were typically dropped quite some time after the giants were. Healing spells were often used on giants. Good placement of a spell went a long way in some of these attacks, so make sure your healing and rage spells are being placed in areas where there is a high density of troops.

Stats

Our Clan: Total attacks - 61/80, 0 Stars - 14, 1 Stars - 2, 2 Stars - 11, 3 Stars - 19

Their Clan: Total attacks - 63/80, 0 Stars - 7, 1 Stars - 1, 2 Stars - 17, 3 Stars - 19

Most heroic attack went to peepdeezy who 3 starred someone ranked 7 levels above him (or if you're Andrew, 7 levels less...lol)

Most heroic defense went to Tyler

Wall of Shame

You were busy, you forgot, you gave up, excuses, excuses. Welcome to the Wall of Shame.

jbunting521

sammie

kelham

mikaela

Megan

Dominic

Micah

We hope you can participate in the next war!

DEFENSE

Key:
L1-5 = Level 1-5
Barbs = barbarians, Arch = archer, WB = Wallbreaker, Wiz = Wizards, Heal = healer, loons = balloons, drags = dragons, HSp = Healing spell, RSp = Rage spell, LSp = Lighting spell, JSp = Jump Spell

Town Hall 7's
Many Town Hall 7's are 3-starred. This could be because a dragon army wiped you out, or a hog army. It happens. These are the TH 7's that were not three-starred.

Stars Given: 2
Attacks Taken: 1
Damage Received: 58% (least)
Attacked by: 15 L5 giants, 14 hogs, L1 Barbarian King, 15 L5 Wiz, 15 L5 arch, 2 L4 RSp, 1 L4 HSp

(Sorry Hawg, it did not want to blur your name)
Stars Given: 2
Attacks Taken: 1
Damage Received: 82%
Attacked by: 14 L4 giants, 16 L4 barbs, 12 L4 wiz, L2 barbarian king, 40 L4 arch, 1 L2 Heal, 6 L4 WB, 4 L1 hogs, 2 L4 HSp, 1 L3 RSp

(iPhoto is picky I guess...)

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 95%

Attacked by: 10 L4 Giants, 2 L2 Heal, 2 L4 WB, 3 L2 drags, 4 L1 Hogs, Lv1 Barbarian King, 5 L4 loons, 8 L4 wiz, 1 L3 HSp, 1 L3 RSp, 1 L4 LSp

Stars Given: 2
Attacks taken: 1
Damage Received: 97%
Attacked by: 35 L5 barbs, 60 L5 arch, 10 L5 wiz, 9 L5 giants, 10 L5 WB, 1 L1 pekka, L2 Barbarian King, 2 L4 HSp

(Pretty much the same base as above)

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 99% (oooo so close! Dragons ran out of time...)

Attacked by: 10 L4 barbs, 10 L4 arch, 15 L4 wiz, 6 L2 drags, L1 Barbarian King, 3 L4 HSp 

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 2

Damage Received: 99% (THOSE STUPID BUILDER'S HUTS IN THE CORNERS! RAGE!), 51%

1st Attack: 9 L2 drags, 2 L1 hogs, 8 L4 arch, 2 L4 barbs
2nd Attack: 6 L5 giants, 5 L4 WB, 8 L5 wiz, 2 L3 Healers, 5 L3 drags, L1 Barbarian King, 1 L4 HSp, 2 L4 RSp

Town Hall 8's
10 of our Town Hall 8's were two starred. On the other side, 2 Town Hall 8's only gave up one star. Also I got lazy and stopped including what troops were used on the last three. Note: Good bases can still get 3-starred, but will not appear in this post.

Stars Given: 1
Attacks Taken: 2
Damage Received: 40%, 38%
Attacked by (40%): 8 L2 Pekka, L7 Barbarian King, 5 L1 arch, 1 L1 drag, 3 L3 RSp, 1 L1 JSp
Attacked by (38%): 27 L5 giants, 20 L6 barbs, L5 Barbarian King, 2 L4 Heal, L4 Archer Queen, 47 L5 arch, 3 L5 LSp

Stars Given: 1
Attacks Taken: 3
Damage Received: 85%, 82%, 70%
Attacked by (85%): 3 L5 giants, 10 L5 WB, 27 L5 arch, 1 L1 Golem, 12 L4 wiz, 4 L3 drags, L5 Barbarian King, L4 Archer Queen, 10 L4 barbs, 4 L5 LSp
Attacked by (82%): 21 L6 barbs, 13 L5 giants, L4 Archer Queen, 44 L5 arch, L5 Barbarian King, 5 L3 drags, 1 L5 HSp, 2 L5 LSp
Attacked by (70%): 9 L2 drags, 2 L1 hogs, 8 L4 arch, 2 L4 barbs, L1 Barbarian King

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 54%

Attacked by: 65 L5 arch, 12 L4 giants, 29 L5 barbs, 7 L4 WB, 10 L4 wiz, 1 L3 Heal, L3 Barbarian King, 2 L4 HSp, 1 L3 RSp

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 2

Damage Received: 55%, 44%

55% attack: 22 L4 barbs, 48 L5 arch, 15 L4 wiz, 12 L4 giants, 8 L3 WB, L2 Barbarian King, 1 L3 Heal, 2 L3 HSp, 1 L3 RSp

44% attack: 31 L5 barbs, 52 L5 arch, 9 L5 wiz, 8 L5 giants, 8 L5 WB, 10 L3 hogs, L6 Barbarian King, 2 L5 HSp, 1 L5 RSp

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 60%

Attacked by: 36 L5 barbs, 47 L4 arch, 8 L4 wiz, 15 L4 giants, 5 L4 WB, L5 Barbarian King, 5 L1 loons, 2 L4 HSp, 1 L3 RSp

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 66%

Attacked by: 23 L5 wiz, L5 Barbarian King, L2 Archer Queen, 4 Pekka, 9 L5 WB, 1 L3 Heal, 13 L1 arch (someone didn't dump), 3 L5 RSp

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 67%

Attacked by: 28 L5 arch, 4 L5 giants, L1 Barbarian King, 3 L1 wiz, 8 L3 drags, 2 L4 HSp, 1 L4 RSp

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 3

Damage Received: 77%, 64% (2s), 71% (1s)

Attacked by (77%): 29 L4 barbs, 41 L4 arch, 15 L4 wiz, 13 L4 giants, 12 L4 WB, L2 Barbarian King, 2 L4 HSp, 1 L2 RSp

Attacked by (71%, 1 star): 10 L1 drags, 4 L1 hogs, L1 Barbarian King, 1 L4 RSp, 2 L4 HSp

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 77%

Attacked by: 57 L4 arch, 18 L4 wiz, 1 L2 Heal, 13 L4 giants, 6 L4 WB, L3 Barbarian King, 2 L4 HSp, 1 L3 RSp

Stars Given: 2
Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 79%

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 89%

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 95%

Town Hall 9's

Stars Given: 0

Attacks Taken: 2

Damage Received: 40%, 36%

Attacked by (40%): 29 L2 hogs, 2 L3 Heal, 52 L5 arch, L7 Barbarian King, L5 Archer Queen, 1 L1 drag, 4 L4 LSp

Attacked by (36%): 29 L5 giants, 7 L5 arch, 8 L4 barbs, 10 L5 WB, L5 Barbarian King, L4 Archer Queen, 4 L4 wiz, 1 L3 Heal, 4 L1 hogs, 4 L5 LSp

(I have no idea why iPhoto is selective)

Stars Given: 0

Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 44%

Attacked by: L6 Barbarian King, L7 Archer Queen, 5 L6 wiz, 3 L5 pekka, 6 L5 hogs, 3 loons, 5 L4 drags, 2 L5 RSp, 2 L6 LSp, 1 Freeze Spell

Stars Given: 0

Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 46%

Attacked by: 15 L5 arch, 5 L1 giants, L6 Barbarian King, 2 L6 barbs, 2 L6 wiz, L7 Archer Queen, 3 L5 pekka, 15 L5 hogs, 3 L4 drags, 2 L6 LSp, 3 L5 RSp

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 2

Damage Received: 58%, 50%

Attacked by (58%): 6 L6 giants, 36 L5 arch, 10 L5 wiz, 26 L3 hogs, 1 L4 Heal, L5 Barbarian King, L1 Archer Queen, 3 L5 HSp

Attacked by (50%): 40 L 5 arch, 23 L5 wiz, 2 L2 Heal, L4 Barbarian King, 3 L2 drags, 1 L3 HSp, 2 L3 RSp

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 59%

Attacked by: 20 L5 barbs, 3 L1 pekka, 18 L5 wiz, 2 L3 Heal, L5 Barbarian King, 12 L5 WB, L2 Archer Queen, 3 L5 R Sp

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 2

Damage Received: 64%, 53%

Attacked by (64%): 8 L6 giants, 20 L6 barbs, 26 L6 arch, 18 L5 wiz, L5 Archer Queen, 8 L5 WB, L9 Barbarian King, 15 L5 hogs, 3 L6 HSp, 1 L5 RSp

Attacked by (53%): 5 L5 giants, 26 L5 barbs, 40 L5 arch, 15 L5 wiz, 8 L5 WB, 10 L3 hogs, 2 L3 Heal, L6 Barbarian King, L4 Archer Queen, 2 L5 HSp, 2 L5 RSp

Stars Given: 2

Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 70%

Attacked by: 23 L5 barbs, 39 L4 arch, 12 L4 wiz, 15 L4 giants, 6 L4 WB, 2 L2 Heal, L5 Barbarian King, 2 L4 HSp, 1 L3 RSp

Town Hall 10

Stars Given: 0

Attacks Taken: 1

Damage Received: 44%

Attacked by: 20 L6 barbs, 53 L6 arch, 6 L6 giants, 17 L5 wiz, 12 L5 WB, 11 L5 hogs, L7 Barbarian King, L5 Archer Queen, 2 L6 HSp, 2 L5 RSp

-Sarah

Sarah's First Post

Hey Everyone!

Just letting you know I am now officially a co-author and this is my first post.

We have a few hours still before our next war starts! Good luck all! I suppose I will update this post and add in some defense options.

-Sarah

Edits:

After war I will be posting the bases that gave up the least stars in both clans.

 Town Hall 8 War Bases
Last updated 09/23/14 28:14

I am having difficulty finding recent posts after the hero updates.

This guy claims that his base is good for defense against dragon attacks. The clan castle is centralized so that it is difficult to lure out clan castle troops. The post only lists three experiences, one in which he defended against a level 2 dragon attack, another in which he got two-starred. This was posted back in May. A poster in June said they were three-starred in two different wars with a mixture of troops, so it's definitely not perfect, but it seems that it defends well against dragons and hogs.

On that same thread, many people talked about this layout on the clash of clans forum. Again, the centralized clan castle makes it impossible to draw out clan castle troops first. It's supposed to be good against hogs and balloons. The poster said it is somewhat weak against a barbarian and archer army. This was posted in March.

This is the basic layout.

The layout they suggest for clan wars

One poster said "For clan wars, I put my Barb King, teslas and [air defenses] in the core with the CC and the town hall. I've never been three starred by dragons (only levels 1-3). By putting the teslas in the core I had spacing issues I needed to address, which leaves two big gaps in the core. These gaps have saved me multiple times because the dragons fly out of the core. 

In addition, these gaps could be double giant bombs so hoggers may skip the base due to thinking bombs are in the core. I get two starred a lot, even by level one dragons but I've never been three starred and I'm fine with that."

However, there's another poster right above him that says he was three-starred by a dragon army. I guess it depends on luck as well.

I've also been looking at this site. It looks like it has pretty good attack strategies to try out that might be worth reading for attacking TH8's and TH9's and it has one TH8 base that looks alright. It is also supposedly weak to a strong barbarian-archer attack. This is also the most recently posted base I found.

Hopefully this helps as you look for the best town hall 8 layout for you.

This is my first war with a Town Hall 8. I am a big fan of encircling each and every defense, so I might check out how that works for me first.

Town Hall 7 War Bases

I asked Bdon what he normally does for his war base. He says he usually just looks up "clash of clans layout" on google and tries the first one that comes up. So that's an option. :)

Here's a popular TH7 war base from the wikia.

The biggest con seems to be that it could be pretty easily 50%'d, but the "spaced-out-ness" is supposed to help keep clan castle troops from being lured.

I don't really trust this site, since the top-rated war base is a bat and I think the next highest-rated is an islam symbol? Anyway this was the top-rated TH 7 base on there. They don't have a picture, it's some kind of flash program.

Tuesday war

Alright we are giving a weekday war a view.  Last one we did we won.  Suggestions were made by Mike and Digital.  I am trying to combine the two.  I think both have value.  Mike suggested our bottom ten should attack THEIR bottom ten until we 3 star all of them.  Now I know we have preached get three stars but maybe we are putting some of our lower levels in positions that they try to go for 3 but in reality they can't...so let's have them get something they can be successful at.  If you are in the bottom ten, use your attacks to try and get all their bottom ten 3 starred.  Then using. Digitals idea as well.  We have always been about attack in your level, that's not working.  Digital suggested comg in in mid war and having upper levels drop down to get for sure 3stars.  Let's say its me.  I look and see the first possible 3 star i can get is their 10th position person.  A lot of times i haven't done that because I feel like i might be stealing a chance for say Rich to get three stars out of their number 10...  I shouldn't feel that way, we want the win, so I should hit it...chance are Rich couldn't get three stars on that person anyhow.  SO I WANT YOU to DROP if you are higher.  I also want to see you chat it up before you attack.  It works.  Endbringer does this all the time.  So does Donald and Rich...Mike, Bdon, Digital, Noll, and Sarah ...also Silent Wolf and Wolfmann do it as well.  It helps.  A lot of time i watch people just pop in and attack...they kind of do a troop dump, think about attacks ask for help.  Lastly if anyone can help me how to post pictures of dfense set ups on here i want to do that.  Sarah or Bdon or Silent maybe you guys know...E, Cody, Wilber, Tyler,or Sup96dawg maybe u guys know...i want to do it to help our defense in war.  Some of our bases still need work, mine included.  Welcome all our new members, Tyler recruited them and we are happy to have them.  We also have a few from the last few weeks Tluna, Sup96dawg(Codysp roommate) Irene, Rangenoer( i know i spelled that wrong I apologize). Shoot suggestions if ya want...Boiler Up